VILLAGE OF RED HOOK PLANNING BOARD MEETING January 14, 2021
REMOTE MEETING VIA RINGCENTRAL
Present Via RingCentral: Co-Chair David Pearson, Member Don Hanson, Member Steven Zacharzuk and Member Jim Rogers.
Absent: Chair Beth Pagano
Mayor Blundell assisted as Host to open the Planning Board Meeting and handed over Secretary Hart to record meeting.
(Note: All Members were visible, with exception of Member Hanson who was audio only)
Co-Chair Pearson opened the January 14, 2021 Planning Board Meeting at 7:02pm.
Co-Chair Pearson advised meeting is being held in accordance with NYS Executive order 202.1 which Governs the Open Meetings Law and that tonight ’ s meeting is being held remotely via RingCentral and is being recorded and a transcript will be provided at a later date.
- Co Chair Pearson did a Roll Call for Attendance:
– Co-Chair Pearson present – Member Don Hanson present – Member Jim Rogers present – Member Steve Zacharzuk present
There is a quorum for the January 14, 2021 Planning Board meeting.
Co-Chair Pearson asked Board members if any comment regarding December 10, 2020 Planning Board Minutes. No comments.
Co-Chair Pearson made a motion to accept and approve the Planning Board minutes dated December 10, 2020. Motion seconded by Member Zacharzuk. All in favor.
Agenda Item #1
ANDREW AND RENEE ALBRECHT – 7405 South Broadway - Signage Application Continuation Tax Parcel ID #6272-10-328593
Applicant Andrew Albrecht was present.
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Co-Chair Pearson referenced the issue at last meeting of Zoning Code Section 200-38 – (specifically Section — “ 200-38-A (b) No freestanding sign larger than 8 square feet shall have less than three feet of open space at the bottom, extending its entire length and asked applicant if this was corrected (NOTE: Amended plan was received by the Building Department on 1/4/2021).
Mr. Albrecht advised he took out the planter and added 2 inch tubular steel painted black just underneath to get the elevation up to 36 inches. Co-Chair Pearson asked about square footage of the polygon and the measurements which shows it being under 15 square feet which his acceptable but asked if the bottom is wider than the top. Mr. Albrecht said he drew it 3-dimensional but will be the same width of 4 feet.
Co-Chair Pearson asked what the sign was made of. Mr. Albrecht advised wood fluted columns and the remaining being white plastic and the sign letters being plastic.
Mr. Albrecht said it will be 3-dimensional sign and the staircase will stick out 6 inches from the panel where the VIP is. Mr. Albrecht said it is in the middle of the lawn so no foot or road traffic next to it.
Co-Chair Pearson asked about colors. Mr. Albrecht said white with a black background with metallic gold lettering.
Co-Chair Pearson asked if there would be any lighting. Mr. Albrecht said no and he will return to the Board if he decides on lighting.
Co-Chair Pearson asked for any comments from the Board. No comments.
Co-Chair Pearson made a motion to approve the freestanding sign proposal submitted by Andrew and Renee Albrecht for property located at 7405 South Broadway, listed under Tax Parcel ID #6272-10-328593 as depicted in the amended application dated 1/4/2021. Said signed shall not shall not exceed the square footage as provided by the Code of the Village of Red Hook, and that said sign is within the limits allowed and conforms to all provisions of Section 200-38 of the Code of the Village of Red Hook. Motion seconded by Member Zacharzuk. All in favor.
Agenda Item #2
’ – ST. PAUL S LUTHERAN CHURCH 7412 South Broadway - Signage Application Tax Parcel ID #6272-10-395562
Brad Patten was in attendance and presenting signage proposal.
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Co-Chair Pearson asked about the issue of having 3 feet of clear space below the sign. Mr. Patten asked if it was 3 feet from the ground, even if a planter. Secretary Hart said sign has to equal 3 feet of open space at the bottom. Co-Chair Pearson asked about the planter. Mr. Patten said it would be a brick planter that will hopefully match the brick to the Church and it will have blue stone or a slate top with flowers, so basically a square planter. Co-Chair Pearson asked what height would be. Mr. Patten said that raises a good question and would depend on numbers of bricks placed for planter but a possibility he may not use the changeable copy letters and use the St. Paul ’ s top portion of the sign.
Co-Chair Pearson asked what the square footage for the St. Paul ’ s Lutheran Church part.? Mr. Patten said 66 x – 30. Co-Chair Pearson said he thought it was 3 x 5.5 3 feet high and a width of 66 and that would put him just over the allowable 15 square feet. Mr. Patten asked if the 15 square feet includes both signs, so the St. Paul ’ s portion if took off the curb portion they would be close just with the top sign for 15 square feet. Co-Chair Pearson asked if the curb portion is partial or ok with taking off. Mr. Patten felt he was getting the 66 x 36 based on the height of the total sign but if you subtract what is not there you would be close to 15 square feet. Mr. Patten said he can get exact numbers but won ’ t be more than 15 square feet. Co-Chair Pearson said they are willing to give up the bottom sign. Mr. Patten said if they stay with the 15 square feet they cannot use the changeable copy letter sign. Co-Chair Pearson advised if you leave the St. Paul ’ s sign as it is that uses up your 15 square feet and will need to make smaller. Mr. Patten said he want to be big enough to see but can give up changeable copy letters at the bottom and keep St. Paul ’ s at the top to the limit of the 15 square feet. Mr. Patten discussed his options. Co-Chair Pearson asked if he could change his planter to be shorter in height. Mr. Patten said yes he could do that and only do 2 brick. Changeable copy board was discussed.
Co-Chair Pearson asked about materials. Mr. Patten said sold core aluminum panel which is premade by Timely Signs and letters are plastic -3 dimensional.
Co-Chair Pearson asked color of letters. Mr. Patten said white but trying to match the Church, but black on white is preference with a cooper roof and LED down lighting in the hood.
Co-Chair Pearson asked what dimension if you do not incorporate curb piece at the top. Mr. Patten said 3 feet plus 18 inches. Co-Chair Pearson said not what he means and asked if you take away the curb what is the height of the rectangular part of the sign. Mr. Patten said less than 3 feet but does not have dimensions, but in looking at scaling probably 32. Co-Chair Pearson calculated 2.67 x 5.5 = 14.6 which is within 15 the way it is. Co-Chair Pearson asked if he knew total height. Mr. Patten said around 90 inches from the top of the planter. Co-Chair Pearson asked that the roof part be above someone ’ s head. Mr. Patten said it will be inside the planter.
Co-Chair asked if any lighting. Mr. Patten said LED down lighting as shown in plan.
Co-Chair Pearson asked the Board for comment. No comments.
Secretary asked if this was a Scout project. Mr. Patten said yes his son was present this evening and this was his Eagle Scout project.
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Co-Chair Pearson reminded applicant to keep open space of 3 feet at the bottom and no lighting interference with traffic.
Co-Chair Pearson made a motion to approve the freestanding sign proposal submitted by St. Paul ’ s Lutheran Church for property located at 7412 South Broadway, listed under Tax Parcel ID #6272-10-395562 as depicted in the amended application dated 12/10/2020. Said signed shall not shall not exceed the square footage as provided by the Code of the Village of Red Hook, and that said sign is within the limits allowed and conforms to all provisions of Section 200-38 of the Code of the Village of Red Hook. Motion seconded by Member Rogers. All in favor.
Co-Chair Pearson announced that the next Planning Board meeting will be held on February 11, 2021 at 7:00pm.
Co-Chair Pearson made a motion to adjourn the January 14, 2021 Planning Board meeting at 7:27pm. Motion seconded by Member Zacharzuk. All in favor. Meeting Adjourned.
LARA HART, Secretary Village of Red Hook Planning Board