VILLAGE OF RED HOOK
PLANNING BOARD MEETING
June 11, 2020
REMOTE MEETING VIA RINGCENTRAL
Present Via Ringcentral: Chair Beth Pagano, Co-Chair David Pearson; Member Don Hanson, Member Ray
Towle and Member Steve Zacharzuk
(Note: All Members were visible, with exception of Member Hanson who was audio only)
Chair Pagano opened the June 11, 2020 Planning Board meeting with a moment of Thanks to all health care workers, essentials workers, police, fire fighters, those working markets, shops and restaurants during these difficult COVID times.
Chair Pagano said tonight’s meeting is being held in accordance with NYS Executive order 202.1 which governs the Open Meetings Law and makes it possible for the applicant and public to continue the business of the Village. Tonight’s meeting is being held via Ringcentral and a transcript will be provided at a later date.
Chair Pagano advised of Board Members/persons in attendance this evening:
Member Ray Towle
Member David Pearson
Member Don Hanson
Member Steve Zacharzuk
Secretary Lara Hart
Secretary states there is a quorum for tonight’s meeting.
Chair Pagano made a motion to accept and approve the Planning Board minutes, with amendments, dated
May 14, 2020.
Secretary Hart advised that all changes were made as received.
Roll Call Vote:
Chair Pagano – Yes
Co-Chair Pearson – Yes
Member Towle – Yes
Member Hanson – Yes
Member Zacharzuk – Yes
All in favor. Motion approved.
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Agenda Item #1
Angelo Laveglia 7582 North Broadway Site Plan Continuation
Tax Parcel ID: 6272-07-503840
Angelo Laveglia, applicant, present via Ringcentral
Daniel Contelmo, Architect, present via Ringcentral
Chair Pagano said the Board has received new plans showing new elevations.
GABLE DISCUSSION:
Chair Pagano asked Mr. Laveglia if the new gable was being built to be even with the existing porch because
Mr. Contelmo’s plans show the gable coming out 6‘ 5” further into the parking area. Mr. Contelmo said it was coming out that far but still not in the parking lot and on the sidewalk. Mr. Contelmo said the existing porch is out about 6 feet and just a shed roof and the gable will continue out within a foot from the curb. Chair Pagano said ok.
SIGNAGE/LIGHTING DISCUSSIONS:
Chair Pagano asked if the existing Salvatore’s Pizza sign was on Mr. Laveglia’s property now. Mr. Laveglia said yes. Mr. Contelmo said the sign is existing and on Mr. Laveglia’s property. Mr. Laveglia said he spoke with Sal (owner of the current location of Salvatore’s ) and because he does not know what he wants to do Mr. Laveglia is not sure what he will do with that sign. Mr. Contelmo again stated that the sign saying “Salvatore’s” is on Mr. Laveglia’s property and how it got there is irrelevant now and if the other owner wants another sign that will have to be worked out between them. Mr. Contelmo said that tree being added where the sign is that was discussed at
the last meeting will be changed to adding shrubs, so as to not block the signage. Chair Pagano said the confusion was that Mr. Laveglia has his signage for Salvatore’s on the parcel in discussion for this site plan and not on the actual site where Salvatore’s is located.
Member Pearson asked if where the signage is would there be a planter and some asphalt removed. Mr. Contelmo said they did remove some asphalt and plants will be added.
LIGHTING:
Member Pearson asked about the light they plan to hang in the middle of the gable poles and asked if that would block the round window and if they would possibly think about putting a light on either side and not in the middle. Mr. Contelmo said the window is accentuating a vaulted ceiling inside and no view through that from the inside. Member Pearson said he was asking about the outside. Mr. Contelmo said elevations are always drawn purely straight on from every vantage point so to look straight onto that elevation, but you will be able to see underneath the sign to the round window with the light above you. Member Pearson said ok. Chair Pagano advised that there will be 2 new sconces out front. Mr. Contelmo said yes 2 right out in front on the columns. Member Pearson said so long as they are not as bright as the issue they had with CVS.
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Chair Pagnao said the Board will need to have some kind of lighting plan. Member Pearson said he would like to see frosted globes. Mr. Contelmo said they took the existing wall mounted light and put it on the front of this structure, which is a relocated flood light on the
building. Chair Pagano asked about the doors that will go to outside on the front of the façade. Mr. Contelmo said they will give a basic cut sheet showing a 40 watt bulb. Chair Pagano said they just want to make sure that light is not flooding across the street. Mr. Contelmo asked if the Board was looking for a maximum wattage. Chair Pagano said the Board would like to see warm not cold, frosted glass and to make sure that lighting does not project to other side. Mr. Contelmo said this will be sort of like a residential sconce. Chair Pagano referenced a prior condition about stating the Board would have 60 days to address any lighting issue. Mr. Contelmo said this was to light the inside where the table would be, so they can get rid of the sconces on the outside which do not help seating and only accentuate the gable but will give cuts on the inside ones showing low wattage. Mr. Contelmo asked the Board if they could remove the sconces on the outside. Board was ok either way, but just had concerns about lighting. Mr. Contelmo said they can supplement it with light data to show foot candles and direction of light on the ground which will show it only projects down.
Chair Pagano asked if the Board wanted the light to be shut off. Member Pearson said that would make sense but don’t have to turn off. Member Pearson asked if there were any other lights on the front of the building.
Mr. Contelmo said nothing new just the existing lights. Member Pearson asked about the box at the highest gable. Mr. Contelmo said it was an existing flood light. Member Pearson asked if it was run by a switch or on all the time. Mr. Laveglia stated they are controlled by a timer. Member Pearson asked if sconce lights could be on a timer. Mr. Laveglia said not a problem.
Chair Pagano stated they added a bike rack. Mr. Contelmo said yes.
BOLLARDS:
Member Pearson asked about the bollards what color they were proposing. Mr. Contelmo said they can control the color. Colors were discussed. Member Zacharzuk had concerns about cars pulling
in too far and hitting them. Mr. Contelmo said he can look into a 2- tone – possibly brown on bottom, with yellow on the tops. Board was ok with that.
Member Zacharzuk asked about the existing walkway around the building and how wide it was. Mr. Contelmo said yes around the entire building and scaling about 5 feet wide.
Sewer plans were discussed. Member Pearson asked when they would open for business. Angelo Laveglia advised that he would open in November 2021.
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PARKING DISCUSSIONS:
Member Zacharzuk asked about the front parking (in front of parking spaces 2, 3, 4, 5 & 6) when George Cole Auctions are taking place and them using his parking spaces. Mr. Laveglia advised he will address that with owners if there is any issue. Chair Pagano said this is Mr. Laveglia’s private property and signs could be posted “private property” and not this Board’s purview.
Member Towle asked about handicap parking and his concerns in front of the addition in the front, which his #1, and if a handicap person wanted to go to the front door how would you get to the sidewalk to do that and why not put the handicap in front of the
front door as oppose to on the end which would create an access problem. Mr. Contelmo said parking shown is existing, no change to spaces and at the last meeting it was mentioned to move the handicap spot and feels that people honor that as a handicap spot and percentages are that it is less likely to be used on a regular basis and be vacant more than if it were a non-handicap spot, there would be less opportunity for a car to be parking and more people sitting. Member Towle said yes, but the question is if you have that addition and people sitting there that is not part of the sidewalk to gain access to the front door and individual would have to go around to the back of the vehicles to get to the front door
because of having no sidewalk. Mr. Contelmo said they have access now from that spot. Chair Pagano said but what if tables are there, they will have to pass in between tables to get to the front door. Mr. Contelmo said the striping at the left side is new, but there will have to be an isle between those tables. Mr. Contelmo said we do not want #1 to go down to #8 and that the only alternative is to move #1 and swap with #7. Member Towle said to swap with #4. Chair Pagano said she understands Mr. Contelmo and last month’s meeting discussion about it being tight at that corner, so by having the handicap space there and the marked off spot, that gives the extra room for cars driving around and to make the wider space #4, you will move spot #1 to the north and reduce the space for trucks to come around. Member Towle said the space is the same, if take handicap space #1 and replace with #4 - the total space is the same. Chair Pagano said no because handicap spaces are wider. Member Towle said yes and it is already there so you still have #1 - #4 and will stay the same. Mr. Contelmo said but now the handicap spot is adjacent to a space and you would lose that and cannot have a handicap person access the sidewalk in front of the car - has to be to the side. Member Towle said that is the problem we have with the handicap at #1 to begin with. Member Pearson asked would they be leaving the front part of the gabled area as an aisle. Mr. Contelmo said they can do anything because it is bonus space and the only way to work in moving spaces is to eliminate a parking space. Chair Pagano said this
Board will already have to approve a lesser amount of paces. Member Towle said there is plenty of parking in the back. Member
Pearson felt parking is not a problem. Mr. Contelmo referenced Village Zoning Section 200-33. Member Pearson feels that handicap space will work there but should commit to leaving an aisle way underneath the gabled overhang. Mr. Contelmo said handicap spaces should be side by side with an aisle way between the spaces so that they share it, and the curb cut is access for both handicap spaces away from tables. Member Pearson asked if curb cuts were there now. Mr. Laveglia said they are at the corner. Member Pearson asked how the curb cut matches up with the center bollard in front of the gabled area. Mr. Contelmo said it doesn’t and is just a straight curb there and the curb cut will be to the left in the stripped area; and felt
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it would be better to create a new curb cut between 2 spaces and swap #1 and #7, but you would have to eliminate #6 – and swap #1 & #6 and #7 will become an aisle for both handicap spaces. Member Pearson asked if where the stripped triangle is where the curb cut is. Mr. Contelmo said yes. Secretary Hart read aloud Section 200-33 – 1 parking space per 100 square feet of floor space. Mr. Contelmo said it is on the plan.
Chair Pagano said they are already down to 31. Mr. Contelmo said this was discussed last month. Secretary Hart read aloud Section 200-33 – “In the case of two of more establishments on the same lot, the Planning
Board may approve the joint use of parking areas with a total capacity of not less than 50% of the sum of the spaces required for
cars and using the same driveways giving access thereto”. Mr. Contelmo said based on that they could go down to 17-18 spaces. Member Towle felt parking was not a problem but asked about changing #7 to a handicap spot that you would lose a parking spot. Mr. Contelmo said because he would like #7 to become an aisle. Member Towle said ok. Mr. Contelmo said he is using the best use of the space.
Member Pearson said he liked that idea because it would give the handicap spaces access to the straight sidewalk vs. potential tables under the gable. Mr. Contelmo suggested if they are creating a new curb cut and shifting the lines they can put the 2 handicap in the middle. Mr. Contelmo said the only way to serve everyone is to have aisle car – aisle car. Chair Pagano asked Mr. Contelmo to lay it out for the next meeting.
Member Zacharzuk would favor 4 ,5 & 6. Member Pearson agreed.
Chair Pagano asked Member Hanson for comment. Member Hanson asked about JB Peel and parking for his customers because of hours of operation. Chair Pagano said JB Peel would have traffic between 10-5 and the restaurant would have traffic from 5-11pm. Member Hanson said Mr. Laveglia’s business opens at 11am. Mr. Laveglia said yes.
TRUCK DELIVERY DISCUSSION:
Member Hanson asked about room for truck delivery. Mr. Laveglia said truck delivery will be on the side. Chair Pagano asked on the north side. Mr. Laveglia said yes. Member Pearson asked when delivery is made. Mr. Laveglia said once a week – big truck comes every Thursday and smaller trucks come in and out. Mr. Lavaglia said customers for JB Peel order and pick-up and do not stay.
Member Zacharzuk asked about truck delivery and if all traffic would flow down the south side of the building and come up the north side. Mr. Laveglia said yes - it goes from one side to other side. Chair Pagano asked if arrows could be painted. Member
Zacharzuk said he would like that. Member Pearson said he thinks arrows are there now. Mr. Laveglia said there is an arrow. Mr. Contelmo said what is on the plan is on the blacktop.
Member Zacharzuk just had concerns of trucks not coming in on the north entrance of the property and down to the side door. Mr. Lavaglia said truck comes early in the am and before businesses open.
Member Pearson asked about plantings. Chair Pagano said they are listed in Sheet S1. Mr. Contelmo said plantings will be hardy. Member Pearson said he was ok with what was proposed.
BIKE RACK:
Mr. Contelmo said one bike rack was added to the plans.
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Mr. Contelmo reiterated tonight’s meeting and issues to be addressed for the next meeting: lighting data; bollard colors and handicap parking.
Chair Pagano advised that the next meeting will be July 9, 2020.
Chair Pagano made a motion to table the site plan application for property located at 7582 North Broadway listed under Tax Parcel ID# 6272-07-503840 to the July 9, 2020 Planning Board meeting at 7:00pm.
Roll call Vote:
Co-Chair Pearson – Yes
Member Towle - Yes
Member Hanson – Yes
Member Zacharzuk – Yes
All in favor. Motion approved.
Chair Pagano made a motion to close the June 11, 2020 Planning Board meeting at 8:08pm.
Roll call Vote:
Co-Chair Pearson – Yes
Member Towle - Yes
Member Hanson – Yes
Member Zacharzuk – Yes
All in favor. Motion approved.
Submitted by,
LARA HART, Secretary
Village of Red Hook Planning Board